Dear Veterans,
You will find detailed ALL IN ONE PLACE instructions here :- Detailed Instructions & FORM (ALL IN ONE COMPENDIUM FOR VETERANS) in case you have any difficulty in copying the nomination form please Download from Here, Print, Fill and Submit to the Bank.
NOTE- FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE WE HAVE ALSO GIVEN THE COMPLETE COMPENDIUM FOR VETERANS AT THE END OF THIS POST. PLEASE CHOOSE THE SUBJECT AND DOWNLOAD
REFUSAL BY BANKS TO ACCEPT LTA NOMINATION
Many offrs have reported that Some of the PDAs specially the SBI in and around Delhi are not accepting the LTA Nomination. This is short sightedness on their part. PCDA(P) circular No 145 deals on this subject. This circular is reproduced below and can also be downloaded from the PCDA web site. While the LTA can be paid to the eligible Family Pensioners, i.e. Parents, daughters and handicapped Children by the bank on the authority of the said circular but not to others without the succession certificate unless the required nomination is made as explained above.
LTA nomination is different from the bank account nomination. This has been explained in detailed under the Nomination Post in this site. It refers to the other than eligible members as given in Clause (b) of sub-rule (14) of Rule 54 of the CCS (Pension) Rules, 1972, reproduced at the end of this post.
The case of refusal by the banks is generally with many pensioner clients of SBI, The branch manager in such cases be asked in writing as to how he will allow LTA to be paid to the family member other than family pensioner when the contingency arises since only the one who draws the family pension will be paid LTA due pertaining to the life time of pensioner. This provision of payment of LTA to Family pensioners in the normal chain ie Spouse, Parents, unmarried/divorsed daughters and handicapped children is now being given in Govt letters and circulars, but then who will get it after the demise of last FP without obtaining succession from revenue authorities.
The LTA nomination is in very much in this context. Plz do share with me what written reply your branch manager gives to you.
FORM - A
FOR CONVENIENCE THE NOMINATION FORM IS GIVEN BELOW, YOU CAN COPY PASTE ON WORD FILE AND TAKE A PRINT..
(FORM-A) (See Rule 5)
BANK
Place ………………. Date ……………..
Signatures …………… ……………….
Name …………………………….
Acknowledgetnent to he sent bv the pension disbursing Authoritv/llead of Office.
NOTE :- SHOWN IN RED ABOVE IS ONLY FOR GUIDANCE DELETE/REPLACE BEFORE PRINTING
PCDA(P) CIRCULAR No, 145
Circular No. 145
No. AT/Tech/012-VIII O/o the Pr. C.D.A. (P), Allahabad Date: 29.04.2010
To,
1. The C.M.Ds, Public Sector Banks………
2. The Director of Treasuries of all states…….
3. The Pr.CDA (W.C.), Chandigarh
4. The CDA (PD), Meerut
5. The CDA, Chennai
6. Nodal Officer of ICICI Bank, IDBI Bank, Axis Bank and HDFC Bank.
7. Military and Air Attache, Indian Embassy Kathmandu, Nepal.
8. The Pay & Accounts Officers………..
9. The Post Master………..
Sub:- Nomination facility to pensioners/family pensioners for drawing life time arrears of pension/family pension under payment of arrears of (Nomination), Rules 1983,clarification thereof.
1. Govt of India, Deptt. of Pension & Pensioners’ Welfare OM No.43/4/95- P&95-P&PW (G) dated 30.10.1995 (copy enclosed) provides that “in the event of death of a family pensioner, the right to receive any arrears of family pension would automatically pass on to the eligible members of a family next in line in accordance with Rule 54 of CCS (Pension) Rules 1972.
The requirement of succession certificate for payment of any arrear should be required only in cases, where there is no eligible family member as defined in Rule 54, after the death of a family pensioner”
2. However, no such similar provisions were in existence for Defence pensioners. Accordingly the matter was referred to Ministry of Defence for extending the above said provisions to Defence pensioners also.
3. Ministry of Defence, vide their letter No.1(16)/2009-D(Pen/Policy) dated 15.03.2010( copy enclosed) have now decided that provisions of Govt of India, Deptt. of Pension & Pensioners’ Welfare OM No.43/4/95-P&95- P&PW (G) dated 30.10.1995 will apply mutatis-mutandis to the Armed forces Personnel.
4. In view of the above, it is requested that all pension paying branches/treasuries/DPDOs/PAOs under your jurisdiction may be instructed to keep in mind the above provisions while regulating the life time arrears of pension/family pension.
(D.C.HANSDA)
Dy.CDA (P)
Copy to:-
1. The CGDA, ULAN BATAR ROAD, Palam Delhi Cantt-110010- For information w.r.to HQrs. Office letter No. 5162/AT-P/L dated 6.4.2010
2. The Pr.CDA (Navy), Cooperage Road Mumbai.
3. The CDA (AF), New Delhi
4. PA to CDA (AT) / CDA (Gts) in Main Office.
5. PA to all Addl. CDA / Jt.CDA, in Main Office.
6. All GOs, in Main Office.
7. Officer-in-Charge, G-I/ M (Tech), G-I/C (Tech) and. Gts /Tech Section (Local).
8. Officer-in-Charge in all section (Local).
9. Officer-in-Charge EDP Centre (Local). For inclusion and uploading at website of this office.
(T.D. Prasad) Accounts Officer (P)
WHO ARE ELEIGIBLE FAMILY MEMBERS AS PER RULE 14 :-
*Family for this purpose means family as defined in Clause (b) of sub-rule (14) of Rule 54 of the CCS (Pension) Rules, 1972, which is reproduced below:
(i) Wife in the case of a male Government servant, or husband in case of a female Government servant.
(ii) A judicially separated wife or husband, such separation not being granted on the ground of adultery and the person surviving was not held guilty of committing adultery.
(iii) Son who has not attained the age of ‘twenty-five years and unmarried daughter who has not attained the age of twenty-five years, including such son and daughter adopted legally.’
NOTE – Wife and husband shall include respectively judicially separated wife and husband. Divorced daughters and handicapped children have also been included. IT SIMPLY MEANS THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR FAMILY PENSION AND NOT OTHERWISE
BACK HOME
ALL IN ONE COMPENDIUM FOR VETERANS
(A BOOKLET PREPARED BY SIGNALS PARIVAAR FOR THE BENEFIT OF RETIRED FAUJIs)
1. Since some of our readers expressed some difficulties in opening all the 14 parts of the compendium, we are giving the index to all the contents here as under. One can select the subject and click your mouse on the title to open the web chapter/page :-
NOTE :- These documents can also be opened on your smart phones and tablets as the above web links are compatible to Android as well as IOS phones.
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YOUR BSERVATIONS AND COMMENTS
Dear Veterans,
1. We at Signals-Family Portal are ordinary people in various matters concerning serving and Retired Govt Personnel, as such, do heavily bank upon inputs from our readers. Kindly do add, comment and give your observations on this or any other post aimed at improving the posted contents for the benefit of the veterans community.
2. Kindly post these under the comments, we will much appreciate your contribution in this regard.
3. In order to avoid spam and unwarranted or mischievous posts, only such entries will get published where the Person has given his RANK, NAME @ EMAIL ID at the end of his/her text.
4. We will do our best to post our response as quickly as possible after getting the facts vetted from offrs, JCOs and men who are more knowledgeable on particular subject.
With best wishes
Sincerely yours,
Brig Narinder Dhand (Veteran)
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Please note that there is "Rule 5" under the "Payment of
Arrears of Pension (Nomination) Rules, 1993" and also Def Pension Instructions at page 206, which is not known to most of us, the LNomination for Life time Arrears has been dealt at length.
It has been authentically confirmed from PCDA (Pensions) that the Rules do not permit payment of Life Time Arrears , if any, which may accrue, pertaining to the period of when the pensioner was alive, after his/her demise, unless
there is a proper nomination made by the pensioner/family pensioner to the effect during his life time.
In cases where there is no nomination the procedure to get the
arrears is tortuous as the legal heirs will need to get succession certificates from the court.
Apparently, payment of arrears is governed differently from the payment of family
pension, irrespective of the fact that wife’s name is included in the PPO & the pension account is held jointly with her.
The nomination is a must for the family pensioners since generally there are no eligible members of the family after the demise of the Family Pensioner and must be done post haste. It is also applicable as a must for pensioners whose spouses may have already deceased and thereafter no eligible family members may be there after the pensioner. Do act today if you haven't acted in the past on our earlier advice given through mails and blog sites .
I will insist that all of us must give this nomination even if your spouse is there since the nomination form has two sets of nominees first the spouse the the second children, who then will automatically become nominees in case of the demise of the spouse or under contingency of accidental death of the pensioner and the spouse.
Even if you have doubts it is better to make your Nomination in the Form B to Rule 5 as given below & submit it to your PDA and obtain acknowledgement.
pension, irrespective of the fact that wife’s name is included in the PPO & the pension account is held jointly with her.
The nomination is a must for the family pensioners since generally there are no eligible members of the family after the demise of the Family Pensioner and must be done post haste. It is also applicable as a must for pensioners whose spouses may have already deceased and thereafter no eligible family members may be there after the pensioner. Do act today if you haven't acted in the past on our earlier advice given through mails and blog sites .
I will insist that all of us must give this nomination even if your spouse is there since the nomination form has two sets of nominees first the spouse the the second children, who then will automatically become nominees in case of the demise of the spouse or under contingency of accidental death of the pensioner and the spouse.
Even if you have doubts it is better to make your Nomination in the Form B to Rule 5 as given below & submit it to your PDA and obtain acknowledgement.
You will find detailed ALL IN ONE PLACE instructions here :- Detailed Instructions & FORM (ALL IN ONE COMPENDIUM FOR VETERANS) in case you have any difficulty in copying the nomination form please Download from Here, Print, Fill and Submit to the Bank.
NOTE- FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE WE HAVE ALSO GIVEN THE COMPLETE COMPENDIUM FOR VETERANS AT THE END OF THIS POST. PLEASE CHOOSE THE SUBJECT AND DOWNLOAD
REFUSAL BY BANKS TO ACCEPT LTA NOMINATION
Many offrs have reported that Some of the PDAs specially the SBI in and around Delhi are not accepting the LTA Nomination. This is short sightedness on their part. PCDA(P) circular No 145 deals on this subject. This circular is reproduced below and can also be downloaded from the PCDA web site. While the LTA can be paid to the eligible Family Pensioners, i.e. Parents, daughters and handicapped Children by the bank on the authority of the said circular but not to others without the succession certificate unless the required nomination is made as explained above.
LTA nomination is different from the bank account nomination. This has been explained in detailed under the Nomination Post in this site. It refers to the other than eligible members as given in Clause (b) of sub-rule (14) of Rule 54 of the CCS (Pension) Rules, 1972, reproduced at the end of this post.
The case of refusal by the banks is generally with many pensioner clients of SBI, The branch manager in such cases be asked in writing as to how he will allow LTA to be paid to the family member other than family pensioner when the contingency arises since only the one who draws the family pension will be paid LTA due pertaining to the life time of pensioner. This provision of payment of LTA to Family pensioners in the normal chain ie Spouse, Parents, unmarried/divorsed daughters and handicapped children is now being given in Govt letters and circulars, but then who will get it after the demise of last FP without obtaining succession from revenue authorities.
The LTA nomination is in very much in this context. Plz do share with me what written reply your branch manager gives to you.
FORM - A
FOR CONVENIENCE THE NOMINATION FORM IS GIVEN BELOW, YOU CAN COPY PASTE ON WORD FILE AND TAKE A PRINT..
(FORM-A) (See Rule 5)
(To be filled by the pensioner during his life time)
To
I, ............ ......................................................,, do hereby make the following alternate nomination in cancellation
of all previous nominations made under Rule
5 of the payment of Arrears of Pension (Nomination) Rules, 1993.
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Name and Address of the nominee
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Relationship with Pensioner
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Date of Birth
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Name and Address of person who may receive the said pension during nominee's minority
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Percentage
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Name and Address of other Nominee in Case the nominee Under column in Case the nominee Under column (1) above
Pre-deceases the (1) above Pre- deceases the Pensioner
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Relationship with Pensioner
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Date
of Birth
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Name and address of The person who may receive the pension during the other
nominee's minority
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Contingency on happening of
which the nomination shall
become Null and Void
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Percentagee to be paid
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PPO No ..... /
................. / ............
S. A/C
No, …………………………….. .......
Signatures ……… ……….
Rank ……… Name …………………
Address
……… .......... ................. ............
… ………..
.....................
Tele No, .......................................
WITNESSES No 1
Signatures …………… ……………….
Name …………………………….
Address …………………………………..
…………… ………………..
Tele Number
...................................
WITNESS No 2
Signatires………………………………
Name …………………………………….
Address ..............................................................
……………………………………………
Tele Number ……………………………
Acknowledgetnent to he sent bv the pension disbursing Authoritv/llead of Office.
Certitied that application
nomination (FORM -B) has been received from, ……… ………… ….. ...............................
R/O ..... ... (ADDRESS)
Place: Signatures
of Pension Disbursement Authority
Date: Full Address
NOTE :- SHOWN IN RED ABOVE IS ONLY FOR GUIDANCE DELETE/REPLACE BEFORE PRINTING
PCDA(P) CIRCULAR No, 145
Circular No. 145
No. AT/Tech/012-VIII O/o the Pr. C.D.A. (P), Allahabad Date: 29.04.2010
To,
1. The C.M.Ds, Public Sector Banks………
2. The Director of Treasuries of all states…….
3. The Pr.CDA (W.C.), Chandigarh
4. The CDA (PD), Meerut
5. The CDA, Chennai
6. Nodal Officer of ICICI Bank, IDBI Bank, Axis Bank and HDFC Bank.
7. Military and Air Attache, Indian Embassy Kathmandu, Nepal.
8. The Pay & Accounts Officers………..
9. The Post Master………..
Sub:- Nomination facility to pensioners/family pensioners for drawing life time arrears of pension/family pension under payment of arrears of (Nomination), Rules 1983,clarification thereof.
1. Govt of India, Deptt. of Pension & Pensioners’ Welfare OM No.43/4/95- P&95-P&PW (G) dated 30.10.1995 (copy enclosed) provides that “in the event of death of a family pensioner, the right to receive any arrears of family pension would automatically pass on to the eligible members of a family next in line in accordance with Rule 54 of CCS (Pension) Rules 1972.
The requirement of succession certificate for payment of any arrear should be required only in cases, where there is no eligible family member as defined in Rule 54, after the death of a family pensioner”
2. However, no such similar provisions were in existence for Defence pensioners. Accordingly the matter was referred to Ministry of Defence for extending the above said provisions to Defence pensioners also.
3. Ministry of Defence, vide their letter No.1(16)/2009-D(Pen/Policy) dated 15.03.2010( copy enclosed) have now decided that provisions of Govt of India, Deptt. of Pension & Pensioners’ Welfare OM No.43/4/95-P&95- P&PW (G) dated 30.10.1995 will apply mutatis-mutandis to the Armed forces Personnel.
4. In view of the above, it is requested that all pension paying branches/treasuries/DPDOs/PAOs under your jurisdiction may be instructed to keep in mind the above provisions while regulating the life time arrears of pension/family pension.
(D.C.HANSDA)
Dy.CDA (P)
Copy to:-
1. The CGDA, ULAN BATAR ROAD, Palam Delhi Cantt-110010- For information w.r.to HQrs. Office letter No. 5162/AT-P/L dated 6.4.2010
2. The Pr.CDA (Navy), Cooperage Road Mumbai.
3. The CDA (AF), New Delhi
4. PA to CDA (AT) / CDA (Gts) in Main Office.
5. PA to all Addl. CDA / Jt.CDA, in Main Office.
6. All GOs, in Main Office.
7. Officer-in-Charge, G-I/ M (Tech), G-I/C (Tech) and. Gts /Tech Section (Local).
8. Officer-in-Charge in all section (Local).
9. Officer-in-Charge EDP Centre (Local). For inclusion and uploading at website of this office.
(T.D. Prasad) Accounts Officer (P)
WHO ARE ELEIGIBLE FAMILY MEMBERS AS PER RULE 14 :-
*Family for this purpose means family as defined in Clause (b) of sub-rule (14) of Rule 54 of the CCS (Pension) Rules, 1972, which is reproduced below:
(i) Wife in the case of a male Government servant, or husband in case of a female Government servant.
(ii) A judicially separated wife or husband, such separation not being granted on the ground of adultery and the person surviving was not held guilty of committing adultery.
(iii) Son who has not attained the age of ‘twenty-five years and unmarried daughter who has not attained the age of twenty-five years, including such son and daughter adopted legally.’
NOTE – Wife and husband shall include respectively judicially separated wife and husband. Divorced daughters and handicapped children have also been included. IT SIMPLY MEANS THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR FAMILY PENSION AND NOT OTHERWISE
BACK HOME
ALL IN ONE COMPENDIUM FOR VETERANS
(A BOOKLET PREPARED BY SIGNALS PARIVAAR FOR THE BENEFIT OF RETIRED FAUJIs)
1. Since some of our readers expressed some difficulties in opening all the 14 parts of the compendium, we are giving the index to all the contents here as under. One can select the subject and click your mouse on the title to open the web chapter/page :-
NOTE :- These documents can also be opened on your smart phones and tablets as the above web links are compatible to Android as well as IOS phones.
******* **********
YOUR BSERVATIONS AND COMMENTS
Dear Veterans,
1. We at Signals-Family Portal are ordinary people in various matters concerning serving and Retired Govt Personnel, as such, do heavily bank upon inputs from our readers. Kindly do add, comment and give your observations on this or any other post aimed at improving the posted contents for the benefit of the veterans community.
2. Kindly post these under the comments, we will much appreciate your contribution in this regard.
3. In order to avoid spam and unwarranted or mischievous posts, only such entries will get published where the Person has given his RANK, NAME @ EMAIL ID at the end of his/her text.
4. We will do our best to post our response as quickly as possible after getting the facts vetted from offrs, JCOs and men who are more knowledgeable on particular subject.
With best wishes
Sincerely yours,
Brig Narinder Dhand (Veteran)
BACK HOME
Thanks a lot Sir for your selfless service to the Signals Veteran community
ReplyDeleteThere is password protection in the form can this please be made a open document
ReplyDeleteThank you very much Sir for this valueable information. Will try to download the form from website.
ReplyDeleteThanks. I
ReplyDeleteThe form is, if I am correct, is one of the several documents that is submitted at the time of retirement. Is included in the Manual /handbook provided by AG's Branch. However one may choose to resubmit to be sure.
ReplyDeleteThanks sir for selfless service for the benefits of vetetans
ReplyDeleteThanks sir for selfless service for the benefits of veterans
ReplyDeleteSir, if the copy of judgment in CWP-3423-2014 of Punjab and Haryana High Court is available, please oblige to send it to my mail id jagtar_moga@yahoo.co.in . This mail id is already in your mailing list.
ReplyDeleteSir,
ReplyDeleteNowadays we all can have Joint Account with spouse of pension and I notice the bank doesn't ask for anyCertificate when any arrears eg of Rank Pay etc come. So my query is after officer's demise will they stop crediting arrears in absence of form? Will do the needful in any case and thanks for the great information.
Nomination for L T A Yes or No is a question which many of my colleagues have often asked me.
ReplyDeleteMy reply to them has always been that Better to be n the safe side by submitting this simple form.
These days PCDA(P) is incl a para on LTA in their circulars to pay the life time arrears of the Retired Veteran to the Family Pensioners but the same is not incl in all the circulars.
It is however a must for the Family pensioner to nominate the legal heir to receive the Life time Arrears that may accrue after the death of the pensioner or the family pensioner. In this case there is no way that the LTA will get paid to any one unless there is a nomination or the heir has obtained a legal heir succession judgment from the court.
Hence my advice to you all is to submit the nomination form to your PDA earliest, after all it is a minor trouble which can be taken by you to safe guard against errors.