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Monday, 2 July 2018

CONCORDANCE TABLES - MIL PERS - OCT 2018

Mod HAS FINALLY ISSUED THE CONCORDANCE TABLES FOR UNIFORMED MILITARY PERS TO WORK OUR THE PENSION FIXATION BY ADOPTING THE NOTIONAL METHOD. 

Dear Fellow Pensioners 
    
     MoD letter dated 17 Oct 2018 lays out the Concordance Tables running into 217 pages. the letter is available in this post and may be downloaded from here    The tables cover all ranks and categories of Army, Navy and Air Force, giving scales in Chart Form for 5th 6th and 7th CPCs.

 The social media has been flooded by the Veterans on the same and we have received hundreds of  queries on the effect of these tables, hence this post for the information of all is being hosted.


       The tables pertaining to Regular officers from Lt upwards have been extracted and can be downloaded  by clicking here .  The tables give the corresponding NOTIONAL pays of 5th, 6th and 7th CPCs . As such knowing the last pay drawn by you at the time of retirement and comparing horizontally will give you Notional Pay under the 7th CPC, 50% of which, will be your basic pension. add to this the 50% of MSP of 7CPC.

        The Implementation letter of the 7th CPC scales was issued by MoD on 05 Sep 2017 and had given out a method of calculating the pension at Annx 1 for officers, JCOs and ORs.   You can download this letter by clicking here .  Since May 2017 we have posted several times the impact of Notional Method for Pension Fixation  in various blog posts as under :-

     (a).    7 CPC - PENSIONES GAIN OR NO GAIN - https://signals-parivaar.blogspot.com/2017/03/page.html   
    
     (b)   7th CPC IMPLEMENTATION 2016 - ALL IN ONE DETAILS    -  http://signals-parivaar.blogspot.in/2017/03/7th-cpc-implementation.html   
     
     (c)     NOTIONAL METHOD OF PAY FIXATION RTI BY AIR MARSHAL  SY SAVUR - https://signals-parivaar.blogspot.com/2018/02/notional.html   

     We had calculated some examples in the above posts. 

WITHOUT GOING INTO FURTHER DETAILS IT SUFFICES TO STATE THAT THOSE OF US WHO HAVE RECEIVED OROP WEF 01 JUL 2014 WILL CONTINUE TO GET THE OROP X 2.57 , WHILE THOSE WHO RETIRED ON OR AFTER 01 JAN 2014 WILL BE BENEFITED BY THE NOTIONAL METHOD OF FIXATION.

      However, those who retired in 2013 are of two categories those who earned pension above the OROP - they will continue to get pension as fixed vide their PPOs based on the last pay drawn and will be benefited by the notional method of fixation, the second category are those who got pension less than the OROP for the rank and service - their pension would have been enhanced to OROP wef 01 Jul 2014 as such they will not be benefited by the said NOTIONAL method under 7th CPC.


 (Note :: Signals Parivaar thanks Col Sarv Deep Singh (sarvdeep59@gmail.com) for bringing the case of 2013 retirees  to our notice)

     THE ABOVE STATEMENTS  CAN BE CHECKED and VERIFIED FROM THE EARLIER POSTS OR BY RE-CALCULATING STARTING WITH YOUR LAST PAY DRAWN AS GIVEN IN YOUR ORIGINAL PPO.



SOME OF THE EARLIER REPLIES AND OUR COMMENTS

BRIGADIERS --    See table at page 194 for Brigs.

Say the  last pay 18500+450 (Rank pay is not considered as taken into acct while drawing out the Tables) as in PPO under 5th CPC . Look  against it under notional pay under 7th CPC it is 148100. Means 74050 will be the  pension by this method,  add to it the half of the MSP 15500/2 which makes it  approx 82000. 

   Brigs 30 yrs and above are already getting 37570×2.57 = 96555  which is the higher among the two (82000  and 96555)  hence it doesn't effect the pers who got OROP.


LT GENERALS


As I had already predicted last year in our blog post that the Notional Method of Pay Fixn will not apply to us, the Fauji’s, since our basic pension IN HAND as on 31 Dec 2015 multiplied by 2.57 will be more than notional fixation. Thanks to Modi Ji that we got the OROP  which placed us above others.
3.   I am giving the calculations and also  attaching the OROP Tables  as well as the Concordance Table. Your scale was 22400-525-24500 as Lt Gen and you retired at its max ie 24500 as such your basic pension was 12250/- under  5th CPC
4.   Under 6th CPC it was finally fixed at 36500 vide PCDA Circular No 500, .  On grant of OROP you should have got 39500 (40000 in case HAG+).
5.   36500  under 6 CPC meant that  the pay amounted to 73000/-  since pension is 50%.
6.  Plz look up 73000/- under 6th CPC in concordance table – it gives correspondingly Notional pay as 187700/- hence pension half of it 93850/-. Now let us   compare it with your OROP X 2.57 i.e   39500*2.57=101515 which is more than Notional Pay Fixn.
7.  Hence your pension will continue to be as it is.  It further confirms that NONE of the uniformed person who retired before 01 Jan 2014 will be benefited by the Notional Pay Fixn method, however those retired after Dec 2013 will be benefited, they had Nil  OROP but their pension had been more than OROP scales..


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